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| joar | morning bkuhn! | 14:45 |
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| bkuhn | greetings! How are things going? | 14:45 |
| joar | bkuhn: good :) you? | 14:46 |
| bkuhn | I'm ok. | 14:49 |
| bkuhn | Anything you want to chat about? | 14:49 |
| bkuhn | I know you're waiting on my for various things. | 14:49 |
| bkuhn | I want to make sure you have adequate stuff to investigate in the meantime. | 14:49 |
| joar | the existing ledger setup | 14:49 |
| joar | I'd like to take a look at how things are set up today | 14:49 |
| bkuhn | Have you read what I've written so far in: https://gitorious.org/ledger/npo-ledger-cli | 14:50 |
| bkuhn | It's incomplete.... but slowly getting there. | 14:50 |
| joar | bkuhn: oh, nice. I'll copy it and play around | 14:51 |
| joar | clone it | 14:51 |
| bkuhn | joar: ok. If you ultimately reach the end of what's there and want more, I can give you access to Conservancy's internal data, you'll need it eventually anyway. | 14:52 |
| joar | That link had slipped out of my mind | 14:52 |
| bkuhn | joar: please also add a link to it somewhere in our wiki | 14:53 |
| joar | will do. I'll take the opportunity to make UseCases and ExistingProjects accessible | 14:56 |
| joar | bkuhn: are you using ledger 3.0 for npo-ledger-cli? | 15:58 |
| joar | Yep, seems like it | 16:18 |
| bkuhn | Yes, joar, you have to build ledger from git to use my stuff. | 16:48 |
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| joar | bkuhn: I found https://github.com/ledger/ledger/tree/master/contrib/non-profit-audit-reports :) | 17:11 |
| bkuhn | joar: it's probably easier if you clone the whole tree, though. | 17:14 |
| bkuhn | joar: if you play around with those scripts, you may be able to write use-cases. | 17:15 |
| bkuhn | Obviously generating those reports are things we'll need to do. | 17:15 |
| joar | Yeah | 17:15 |
| joar | I've cloned it all | 17:15 |
| joar | local ledger-bleeding in ~/local/bin | 17:16 |
| bkuhn | Yeah, paroneayea complained to me about that too. | 17:19 |
| bkuhn | I think I have /usr/local/bin/ledger hardcoded in some of those scripts | 17:19 |
| joar | Yes | 17:19 |
| joar | I just changed it to 'ledger' | 17:19 |
| joar | since it's running with my shell $PATH | 17:19 |
| bkuhn | joar: I'm going to post briefly to the mailing list about your work so far, is that ok? | 17:26 |
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| joar | bkuhn: certainly :) | 17:57 |
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| bkuhn | joar: sent. | 19:03 |
| joar | bkuhn: is the example in ledger/contrib/... the optimal structure of a fiscal report? | 19:17 |
| joar | rather, is there a defined structure on how data should be structured and sent to the auditor(?)? | 19:18 |
| joar | I guess the fiscal report is sent to the auditor before it ends up in the IRS, I hope the book you sent me will clear this up for me. | 19:18 |
| bkuhn | yeah, it's generated first. | 19:19 |
| joar | it'd be nice to know how the reports should look when writing a UseCase from an US NPO's perspective. | 19:19 |
| joar | the UseCase is regarding reports. | 19:20 |
| joar | and the ability to create those from the system. | 19:20 |
| bkuhn | ok. | 19:20 |
| bkuhn | I agree with you. | 19:20 |
| joar | bkuhn: I didn't understand if you confirmed if the structure in your ledger/contrib example is the optimal way, the defined way, a good way. | 19:21 |
| bkuhn | Hahah! | 19:21 |
| bkuhn | It's probably not the best way | 19:22 |
| bkuhn | it's what we're using now | 19:22 |
| bkuhn | and we're surviving. | 19:22 |
| joar | I see :) | 19:22 |
| bkuhn | I don't think it's optimal | 19:22 |
| bkuhn | certainly, we need the basic accounting reports: balance sheet, trial balance, etc. | 19:22 |
| joar | bkuhn: and these documents are then consumed by the auditor? | 19:23 |
| bkuhn | right | 19:23 |
| joar | are the documents consumed by any other party of significance? | 19:23 |
| joar | or does the auditor produce a separate report that ends up at the IRS or similar? | 19:24 |
| bkuhn | so | 19:25 |
| bkuhn | my long term plan is that these documents would be consumed by projects too | 19:25 |
| joar | bkuhn: I wrote a short stub, I hope I got it right: http://npoacct.sfconservancy.org/UseCases/GeneratingReports/?updated | 19:32 |
| bkuhn | It's a start. :) | 19:32 |
| joar | bkuhn: is it common to have several accountants work on the same ledger? | 19:41 |
| bkuhn | ossguy: yes. | 19:44 |
| bkuhn | er, rather joar, yes. | 19:44 |
| joar | it seems like a thing at least: http://www.k2e.com/tech-update/articles/416-articles-collaborative-acct | 19:44 |
| joar | bkuhn: :) | 19:44 |
| bkuhn | joar: pls. see email I just sent to you. Respond if youc ould. | 19:46 |
| joar | bkuhn: I might have missed an SMTP Cc: header. I will resend it. | 19:52 |
| bkuhn | joar: that's fine. | 19:53 |
| joar | bkuhn: I will not resend it then :) | 19:53 |
| bkuhn | no need to | 19:53 |
| bkuhn | I'll bounce a copy to TOny | 19:53 |
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