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| joar | bkuhn: I see | 01:19 |
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| bkuhn | The book I just sent you has a section that discusses this | 01:29 |
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| joar | morning bkuhn! | 15:50 |
| bkuhn | greetings. | 15:52 |
| joar | today is my birthday. I will probably be off a while around 1600 UTC for dinner with friends :) | 15:54 |
| bkuhn | Oh, no problem at all! | 15:55 |
| bkuhn | Have a great birthday. | 15:55 |
| joar | Thank you :) | 15:55 |
| joar | bkuhn: I'm trying to put my double-entry skills to test by creating a ledger journal for the multiple-funds type of situation. | 16:16 |
| bkuhn | joar: ok, that's good. | 16:16 |
| bkuhn | let me know if you want me to take a look at it any point. | 16:17 |
| bkuhn | I'm happy to take a look and make comments. | 16:21 |
| joar | bkuhn: that's the plan :) | 16:29 |
| bkuhn | Great. | 16:29 |
| bkuhn | joar: we should probably schedule a specific set of days to do the "Evaluation Sprint" I was talking about. | 16:29 |
| joar | bkuhn: that might be a good idea | 16:29 |
| bkuhn | It must be topologically sorted behind my writing up Use Cases | 16:30 |
| bkuhn | ... but setting a deadline would be good. | 16:30 |
| bkuhn | When do you think? | 16:30 |
| bkuhn | Should we do it the week of the 4th, or the 11th? | 16:30 |
| joar | bkuhn: as soon as possible IMO | 16:30 |
| bkuhn | I'd like the extra time, but I'm concerned that you won't have enough to do. | 16:31 |
| bkuhn | yeah. | 16:31 |
| bkuhn | well, the week of the 4th is the only realistic time I can think. | 16:31 |
| bkuhn | ... as some of this depends on me. | 16:31 |
| joar | bkuhn: I see. You have to tell me if it becomes unrealistic | 16:31 |
| joar | if you feel confident that you can make the 4th that would be good. | 16:32 |
| bkuhn | Right, this early part is blocked a lot on me, and perhaps others in the community who should write use-cases. | 16:32 |
| joar | I'll find something to do in the meantime. | 16:32 |
| bkuhn | joar: maybe something else we should do in parallel: perhaps I should show you the existing system. | 16:32 |
| bkuhn | and you can play with it. | 16:32 |
| bkuhn | and see what we're doing now with Ledger-CLI | 16:32 |
| bkuhn | at least to get a sense. | 16:32 |
| joar | Yes, that would be good. | 16:32 |
| bkuhn | ok. | 16:32 |
| bkuhn | So, let's plan tomorrow to do that. | 16:32 |
| joar | perhaps an email to the list sourcing use-cases would be good? | 16:33 |
| joar | might help you | 16:33 |
| joar | and us :) | 16:33 |
| bkuhn | Not sure I grok that. | 16:33 |
| bkuhn | "sourcing" | 16:33 |
| bkuhn | you mean, asking for? | 16:33 |
| joar | yes | 16:33 |
| bkuhn | joar: ok, good idea. | 16:33 |
| bkuhn | Can you set up an area in the Wiki to ask for UseCases | 16:33 |
| bkuhn | Maybe make a template for them. | 16:33 |
| bkuhn | ? | 16:33 |
| bkuhn | I have no idea what it should look like. | 16:34 |
| joar | bkuhn: I'll find something out | 16:34 |
| joar | plain documents is a good start. | 16:34 |
| bkuhn | I haven't written Use Cases since I was an undergraduate CS student in 1993. | 16:34 |
| bkuhn | So, I doubt I have any "current" ideas on this. | 16:34 |
| bkuhn | What do the "Agile" people do on this/ | 16:34 |
| joar | I have written some, but I can't say they have a defined structure | 16:34 |
| bkuhn | joar: do some research about "modern techniques" for writing up Use Cases exist. | 16:35 |
| bkuhn | I really don't know, I haven't done it in some time. | 16:35 |
| * joar is already looking :) | 16:35 | |
| bkuhn | As I said, maybe the Agile people have thoughts on this. | 16:35 |
| bkuhn | It seems like something they'd like doing. :) | 16:35 |
| joar | Agile/Scrum was the first hit | 16:35 |
| bkuhn | I figured. :) | 16:37 |
| joar | might be google skewing it because of my history ;) | 16:38 |
| bkuhn | lol | 16:40 |
| bkuhn | You should use Tor to be sure. :) | 16:41 |
| paroneayea | all hail the scrumlord | 16:41 |
| joar | I kind of like it this way, I rarely get irrelevant results to simple queries such as single-word function names | 16:41 |
| bkuhn | paroneayea and I were recently on Google's campus.... | 16:42 |
| bkuhn | ... I suspect they now know everything about us. | 16:42 |
| paroneayea | :) | 16:43 |
| joar | a simple way to test that might be to search for 'free' and check if the first result is http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html | 16:47 |
| joar | whoa, it's actually the second result for me | 16:48 |
| joar | I didn't expect that | 16:48 |
| paroneayea | fsf is second result here | 16:48 |
| paroneayea | and I am not using tor | 16:48 |
| paroneayea | I'm sure google has associated way more to me than I would like | 16:49 |
| joar | I tried in a clean window, FSF was the second result | 16:49 |
| paroneayea | I really should use DDG more probably | 16:49 |
| paroneayea | free as in google results | 16:49 |
| joar | :) | 16:49 |
| joar | in the clean window, free-sw.html was the third result | 16:50 |
| joar | I guess it makes sense to think that most pages that put emphasis on "free" are junk and google cleans them out. | 16:50 |
| bkuhn | It's the first hit for me. | 16:55 |
| joar | oh well :) | 16:57 |
| joar | bkuhn: http://npoacct.sfconservancy.org/UseCases/Test/?updated | 19:49 |
| * bkuhn thought you'd be gone already. :) | 19:49 | |
| joar | hah :) | 19:49 |
| joar | I've had my delicious dinner, family is sleeping :) | 19:50 |
| bkuhn | Great! | 19:50 |
| bkuhn | Ok, I'd say put on http://npoacct.sfconservancy.org/UseCases/ any resources that you found of use in writing use cases | 19:50 |
| joar | That's the plan | 19:50 |
| joar | I'm not sure I want to force a template on people though. | 19:51 |
| joar | bkuhn: updated http://npoacct.sfconservancy.org/UseCases/?updated | 20:04 |
| bkuhn | thanks | 20:14 |
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