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| bkuhn | joar: how's the OpenPetra thing going? | 16:55 |
| joar | bkuhn: troublesome setup | 16:55 |
| bkuhn | :-/ | 16:55 |
| joar | I'm jumping to tryton while I wait for a new bzr branch lp:openpetraorg | 16:56 |
| bkuhn | joar: good idea. | 16:56 |
| joar | ok, got a tryton image | 17:08 |
| joar | with just the client | 17:08 |
| joar | bkuhn: I can check the disk image into the npo-acct repo | 17:08 |
| joar | tryton has a demo server set up | 17:09 |
| bkuhn | joar: that's probably too big a thing to put into revision control | 17:10 |
| joar | might be | 17:10 |
| joar | but we don't have anywhere else at the moment | 17:10 |
| bkuhn | do you want to just rsync it up to oak? Is there enough disk space there? | 17:10 |
| joar | that might be better | 17:10 |
| bkuhn | eh, it's only 1.8GB free | 17:11 |
| joar | I should set up a new virtual host for plain file storage | 17:11 |
| joar | oh | 17:11 |
| bkuhn | well | 17:11 |
| bkuhn | the options are | 17:11 |
| joar | cloudfiles | 17:11 |
| joar | rackspace cloudfiles | 17:11 |
| bkuhn | (a) attach another disk to oak or (b) make another VM to hold stuff | 17:11 |
| joar | They have CDN-hosted public/private file storage, and you mentioned you had some credits with them | 17:12 |
| bkuhn | is rackspace cloudfiles easier than attaching a disk to oak? | 17:12 |
| joar | Their storage price is pretty good, I use it with gobblin.se | 17:12 |
| bkuhn | (I'm looking to see if those credits include the file storage thing) | 17:12 |
| joar | Rackspace CloudFiles has a web UI for uploading | 17:12 |
| joar | and also APIs | 17:12 |
| joar | but we don't need any intergration at the moment, we just need the file storage, right? | 17:13 |
| joar | (for gobblin.se, I host all the media on Rackspace CloudFiles) | 17:13 |
| bkuhn | I looked at it. | 17:15 |
| bkuhn | It's not clear it'll be free | 17:16 |
| bkuhn | so the easiest is create a big disk and attach it to oak, I think. | 17:16 |
| joar | ok | 17:16 |
| * bkuhn does that now. | 17:17 | |
| joar | let's do that in the meantime | 17:17 |
| joar | the image is 514M, that is without xorg | 17:17 |
| joar | using x11-forwarding instead | 17:17 |
| joar | set up automatically by vagrant | 17:17 |
| joar | does oak receive *.npoacct.sfconservancy.org? | 17:20 |
| joar | does not seem like it | 17:21 |
| joar | I can use the oak.sfconservancy.org host in the meantime | 17:21 |
| joar | instead of my original thought: files.npoacct.sfconservancy.org | 17:21 |
| bkuhn | joar: ok, put it in oak.sfconservancy.org:/srv/npoacctvms/vms/ | 17:23 |
| bkuhn | you can just use rsync | 17:25 |
| joar | http://oak.sfconservancy.org/ set up to serve the files in /srv/npoacctvms/vms/ | 17:26 |
| bkuhn | joar: not necessary yet... | 17:26 |
| bkuhn | ... given that it's just you and me. | 17:26 |
| joar | right | 17:26 |
| bkuhn | if someone else here wants the VM, we can provide. :) | 17:26 |
| bkuhn | but I don't think we're getting tons of people lined up to help us on the eval, despite my invitation. :) | 17:27 |
| joar | undone | 17:27 |
| bkuhn | joar: let me know when you're started copying, I'll pull it down while you are pushing it up. | 17:28 |
| bkuhn | joar: I made a group on that box called vmshare, which you're account is in | 17:28 |
| joar | bkuhn: copying | 17:31 |
| bkuhn | I don't see the temp file appearing... | 17:32 |
| bkuhn | you using rsync -HavzP ? | 17:32 |
| bkuhn | I was going to start pulling it in pieces | 17:32 |
| joar | now | 17:32 |
| bkuhn | hrm | 17:33 |
| bkuhn | no files yet in $ ls -lrta /srv/npoacctvms/vms/ | 17:33 |
| bkuhn | 17:33 | |
| bkuhn | usually rsync makes a temporary file | 17:33 |
| bkuhn | (I do this a lot to bring files from machine to machine) | 17:34 |
| joar | ➜ tryton-vagrant rsync -HavzP tryton-clientonly-precise64.box oak.sfconservancy.org:/srv/npoacctvms/vms/ belz | 17:34 |
| bkuhn | hrm | 17:34 |
| joar | that's the command | 17:34 |
| bkuhn | that looks right | 17:34 |
| joar | it's using ssh as the transport | 17:34 |
| bkuhn | yeah | 17:34 |
| joar | maybe you've been using the rsync server | 17:34 |
| bkuhn | no, I do this with ssh all the time | 17:34 |
| joar | ok | 17:35 |
| bkuhn | how much data has been copied? | 17:35 |
| joar | tryton-clientonly-precise64.box | 17:35 |
| joar | 9830400 1% 75.34kB/s 1:56:43 | 17:35 |
| bkuhn | huh | 17:35 |
| bkuhn | that's quite odd | 17:35 |
| bkuhn | I can't figure out where it's putting the data | 17:35 |
| bkuhn | This is truly confusing | 17:36 |
| bkuhn | I'm convinced it's not copying anything. | 17:37 |
| bkuhn | as diskspace on npoacct is not changing | 17:37 |
| joar | I asked pokorra in #openpetra to provide a set of instructions to get openpetra set up entirely on linux. | 17:37 |
| bkuhn | joar: I'm really troubled at how hard all these packages are to install. | 17:38 |
| bkuhn | I tried installing LedgerSMB last night; it's harder than I remember it, notwithstanding that there's a Debian package | 17:38 |
| bkuhn | it just "didn't work"... it isn't seeing the database, and I can't figure out why. | 17:38 |
| joar | that's weird | 17:38 |
| joar | both disk and database | 17:39 |
| bkuhn | well, I think somewhere, it's telling it a different name of the database | 17:39 |
| bkuhn | joar: I keep running df on oak, and there's not more disk spcae getting used | 17:39 |
| joar | I'm doing the same thing | 17:39 |
| bkuhn | the disk usage has been the same number of blocks since you started | 17:39 |
| bkuhn | joar: try something, hit ctrl-c on your rsync. Since you did -P, it should put a partial file there | 17:40 |
| joar | rsync error: unexplained error (code 255) at rsync.c(549) [sender=3.0.9] | 17:40 |
| bkuhn | ok, something weird is going on | 17:40 |
| bkuhn | try copying some small text file with the same command | 17:41 |
| bkuhn | I just did: rsync -HavzP test oak.sfconservancy.org:/srv/npoacctvms/vms/ and it worked as I would have expected | 17:41 |
| joar | rsync: mkstemp "/srv/npoacctvms/vms/.Vagrantfile.Lk9ZVq" failed: Permission denied (13) | 17:42 |
| joar | oh | 17:42 |
| joar | did you set the permissions on that folder? | 17:42 |
| joar | I'm using shared SSH connections | 17:42 |
| joar | I might have to reconnect | 17:42 |
| bkuhn | joar: you may need to restart them. | 17:42 |
| bkuhn | I added you to a group | 17:42 |
| joar | yeah | 17:42 |
| bkuhn | joar: meanwhile, another thing you can work on: can you build a "test form" for a checklits for each project against the use cases. | 17:46 |
| bkuhn | I am not sure what this should look like. | 17:47 |
| bkuhn | I guess it should be a bullet list of items with links to the test case. Each test case should have a short name of some sort... | 17:47 |
| bkuhn | ... is there a way to do the equivalent of <a id="XXX"> in ikiwiki? | 17:47 |
| joar | I noticed that | 17:51 |
| bkuhn | Noticed what? | 17:51 |
| joar | <a id> | 17:51 |
| bkuhn | Not sure what you mean ... noticed that we need it, or? | 17:52 |
| bkuhn | (meanwhile, has your rsync of the tryton VM restarted, still not seeing a temp file...) | 17:52 |
| joar | i was on the phone, restarting | 17:52 |
| joar | ok | 17:53 |
| joar | running | 17:53 |
| joar | bkuhn: that it's lacking | 17:54 |
| bkuhn | ugh. | 17:54 |
| bkuhn | That's too bad. | 17:54 |
| bkuhn | Is this a known bug in ikiwiki? | 17:54 |
| joar | looking | 17:55 |
| joar | http://ikiwiki.info/ikiwiki/wikilink/discussion/ | 17:55 |
| bkuhn | http://ikiwiki.info/ikiwiki/wikilink/ seems to indicate they're supported | 17:57 |
| bkuhn | ok, you just hard code <a id="test"> I think that's the way to do it. | 17:59 |
| joar | yep | 18:00 |
| bkuhn | joar: so here's a thing to do, go through all the use cases we have so far, and find discrete ones we can evaluate projects for..... | 18:00 |
| joar | discrete? | 18:01 |
| bkuhn | ... and put an <a id="SOMETHING"> for each one, adding each time to some EvaluationTemplate bullet list. | 18:01 |
| bkuhn | "separate ones that we can independently evaluate each package for" | 18:01 |
| joar | ack | 18:01 |
| bkuhn | Note that I'm still adding UseCases here and there. | 18:02 |
| joar | So create a template for the UseCase evaluations? | 18:02 |
| joar | and then include <a id> in that template to each separate UseCase section? | 18:02 |
| joar | bkuhn: have I understood you correctly? | 18:04 |
| bkuhn | I think so. | 18:04 |
| bkuhn | Basically, the template should probably have a bullet list of named usecase: | 18:04 |
| bkuhn | * [double entry accounting|DoubleEntry#doubleentry] | 18:05 |
| bkuhn | (although in that case, I guess an <a id isn't necessary) | 18:05 |
| bkuhn | A good example is ReimbursementRequest, which has many different use-cases related to reimbursements. | 18:05 |
| joar | does this look good? http://npoacct.sfconservancy.org/ExistingProjects/EvaluationTemplate/?updated | 18:05 |
| joar | or do you just want a summary-type list? | 18:06 |
| joar | (that's a draft) | 18:06 |
| joar | I'm not sure I understand you correctly, how should this template be used? | 18:07 |
| * bkuhn looks | 18:14 | |
| bkuhn | so, my thought is this: | 18:15 |
| bkuhn | joar: for each project we evaluate, we should have a list of items | 18:15 |
| bkuhn | ... that we're evaluating it for. | 18:16 |
| bkuhn | let me modify your template | 18:16 |
| bkuhn | standby on this. | 18:16 |
| bkuhn | joar: http://npoacct.sfconservancy.org/ExistingProjects/EvaluationTemplate/ now has what I was talking about. | 18:45 |
| joar | I think I see what you mean | 18:45 |
| bkuhn | Meanwhile, I can't get this to work: | 18:45 |
| bkuhn | a.idOnly { | 18:45 |
| bkuhn | text-decoration: none !important; | 18:45 |
| bkuhn | } | 18:45 |
| bkuhn | in local.css | 18:45 |
| * bkuhn is not good with CSS | 18:46 | |
| joar | do you have problems with text-decoration? | 18:46 |
| bkuhn | the text-decoration is just confusing if it's not really a link, isn't it? | 18:46 |
| joar | ah, text-decoration only concerns the underline and strikethrough | 18:47 |
| joar | you should change it to <a id="foo"></a>Generating reports | 18:47 |
| joar | so, just create an empty <a> tag before the anchor target | 18:48 |
| bkuhn | is that really the "right way" to do it? | 18:48 |
| joar | it's the generally accepted way | 18:48 |
| bkuhn | oh, ok. | 18:48 |
| joar | it's the way sphinx does it, for example | 18:48 |
| joar | I think wikipedia does the same | 18:48 |
| joar | wikipedia does it differently | 18:50 |
| joar | but I've seen it many places | 18:50 |
| joar | usually documentation | 18:50 |
| joar | bkuhn: do you want me to fix it? | 18:51 |
| bkuhn | joar: I just did, I think. | 18:51 |
| joar | yep | 18:52 |
| joar | I think I'm going to go through the list at ExistingProjects and mark some of those for exclusion from the evaluation. | 19:06 |
| bkuhn | joar: because they are just so far from "being there"? | 19:07 |
| joar | Yes | 19:07 |
| bkuhn | That makes sense. | 19:07 |
| joar | we have a lot of stuff in that list | 19:08 |
| joar | and it's just distracting to me | 19:08 |
| joar | bkuhn: I'm going to eliminate frontaccounting based on their codebase, see http://npoacct.sfconservancy.org/ExistingProjects/Frontaccounting/, "Negative" | 19:15 |
| * bkuhn thinks about it. | 19:18 | |
| bkuhn | joar: what's fontaccounting's clone URL> | 19:18 |
| bkuhn | ? | 19:18 |
| bkuhn | (It drives me nuts how hard it is to find this on these project's web pages!) | 19:19 |
| joar | yep | 19:19 |
| joar | I'm looking for it | 19:19 |
| bkuhn | I finally found it: | 19:19 |
| joar | http://sourceforge.net/p/frontaccounting/mercurial/ci/default/tree/ | 19:20 |
| bkuhn | http://frontaccounting.com/fawiki/ links to here: http://sourceforge.net/p/frontaccounting/mercurial/ci/default/tree/ | 19:20 |
| joar | :) | 19:20 |
| joar | I am using the list on ExistingProjects as if it was my TODO list. I think this is kind of the right approach, but I'm not sure. | 19:20 |
| joar | The downside with that is that we make the project pages floating even though I've been doing some research on them. | 19:21 |
| bkuhn | joar: I think you're right, and I think you're also right now is the time to start knocking some of the low hanging fruit off the list. | 19:21 |
| joar | good | 19:22 |
| bkuhn | joar: your notes mention FrontAccounting is easy to get up and running? | 19:22 |
| bkuhn | maybe we should try to run it quickly just to give a quick look? | 19:22 |
| joar | it's seemingly easy. | 19:22 |
| joar | I'll start a vm | 19:22 |
| joar | http://www.ohloh.net/p/frontaccounting | 19:24 |
| bkuhn | what specifically on the oholoh link did you want to call my attention to? | 19:28 |
| joar | sorry | 19:29 |
| bkuhn | joar: btw, are you following the mailing list discussion>? | 19:30 |
| joar | it has a small development team | 19:30 |
| joar | Yes | 19:30 |
| joar | the RDF tip is intriguing | 19:30 |
| bkuhn | I'm replying to that. | 19:35 |
| bkuhn | I just posted a reply | 19:39 |
| bkuhn | joar: so, was frontaccounting an easy install? | 19:47 |
| joar | bkuhn: not done yet :) | 19:47 |
| bkuhn | well, that may mean it's hard... keep notes. | 19:47 |
| bkuhn | :) | 19:47 |
| bkuhn | I mean, if it's really hard to install, I'm not opposed to eliminating based on what your code review saw. | 19:47 |
| joar | Yeah | 19:47 |
| bkuhn | I guess I fear we're missing something. | 19:48 |
| joar | Me too | 19:48 |
| bkuhn | I'm truly baffled by why people keep reinventing this wheel so poorly.... | 19:48 |
| bkuhn | ..... is the wheel that hard to make? | 19:48 |
| bkuhn | maybe it is. | 19:48 |
| joar | but it'd be overwhelming if we went digging for diamonds in all of these | 19:48 |
| joar | It's harder to write reusable code than working code | 19:49 |
| joar | and these are open-source projects competing with a lot of other | 19:49 |
| bkuhn | (You read the post I just made to the list... or we serendipitously just came up with the same analogy :) | 19:49 |
| joar | I think it's a haunted area for open source software development | 19:49 |
| joar | the diamonds? yes | 19:49 |
| joar | :) | 19:49 |
| joar | I read your email | 19:50 |
| bkuhn | Yeah, Don Lobo of the CiviCRM project was really urging me to *not* bother too much with evaluating codebases. | 19:50 |
| joar | Here be dragons | 19:50 |
| bkuhn | He pointed out that when Civi started, there were some codebases out there that weren't all that usable. | 19:50 |
| bkuhn | and he didn't want to waste time. | 19:50 |
| bkuhn | yeah, I know. | 19:50 |
| bkuhn | but look: | 19:50 |
| bkuhn | let's do it this way: | 19:50 |
| bkuhn | I've got a nice set of use cases that are nearly feature complete for what Conservancy has now. | 19:51 |
| bkuhn | I'll finish that, and I'll finish the eval template. | 19:51 |
| bkuhn | Let's install each of these things and at least quickly mark off things. | 19:51 |
| bkuhn | We can also email the maintainers and let them know, and give them a chance to join the list and dispute. | 19:51 |
| bkuhn | Maybe that's the right way to do it. | 19:51 |
| bkuhn | And let's set ourselves a deadline. | 19:52 |
| bkuhn | Lets say, by the end of next week, 2013-11-22, we *have* to know what our plan for code reuse is. | 19:52 |
| bkuhn | We have 23 projects on the list right now. | 19:53 |
| bkuhn | that means, we have to eliminate, on average, two projects each day | 19:53 |
| bkuhn | maybe 3 | 19:54 |
| bkuhn | (since it's nearing the end of your day) | 19:54 |
| bkuhn | Let's try to get frontaccounting eliminated today at least. | 19:54 |
| joar | or not eliminated :) | 19:54 |
| joar | but we have somethings | 19:54 |
| joar | but yes, that's a good plan. | 19:54 |
| joar | .. some projects that could be eliminated. | 19:55 |
| joar | I'm confident in that plan. | 19:55 |
| bkuhn | (re: frontaccounting) right, we have a valid "scientific" hypothesis on Frontacccounting based on your initial eval. | 19:55 |
| joar | all this sysadminin impairs my social abilities | 19:55 |
| bkuhn | haha | 19:55 |
| bkuhn | well, that's part of the eval too | 19:55 |
| joar | :) | 19:55 |
| bkuhn | the difficulty of installation on these is really frustrating and silly. | 19:55 |
| joar | I just have a hard time doing both at the same time | 19:56 |
| bkuhn | I can't understand why a project wouldn't test and retest their install to make it dead-easy. | 19:56 |
| bkuhn | Isn't that the first thing you need for people to adopt your stuff? | 19:56 |
| joar | I know why. We are not regular users | 19:56 |
| bkuhn | ??? not sure I grok? | 19:56 |
| joar | sorry, all these grunts are the sysadmin in me speaking. | 19:57 |
| joar | I think I meant that we have a lot more projects to set up, so we can't spend the same amount of resources as someone who's only goal is to set up one project. | 19:58 |
| joar | but they are still incredibly hard to set up | 19:58 |
| bkuhn | Right, that's a good point. | 19:59 |
| joar | I will take a break for dinner now, hopefully that will bring my cognitive and social abilities back to normal. | 19:59 |
| bkuhn | No problem. If you have time after dinner, let's at least try to finish the front accoutning install and go from there. | 19:59 |
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| joar | back | 21:01 |
| joar | tryton image is fully synced | 21:07 |
| joar | packaging frontaccounting | 21:08 |
| joar | bkuhn: frontaccounting set up | 21:09 |
| bkuhn | joar: ok, is it in a VM? | 21:09 |
| joar | yep | 21:09 |
| joar | bkuhn: might be easier to just create an HTTP tunnel | 21:10 |
| bkuhn | sure, is it on your box? | 21:11 |
| joar | nope, in a VM | 21:11 |
| bkuhn | oh, hm. | 21:11 |
| joar | but the VM is surely about 500G | 21:11 |
| bkuhn | woah! | 21:11 |
| bkuhn | that's big. :) | 21:12 |
| joar | well, it's an OS :) | 21:12 |
| bkuhn | ah | 21:12 |
| bkuhn | hmm | 21:12 |
| bkuhn | well, most base installs are aournd 1G :) | 21:12 |
| bkuhn | anyay | 21:12 |
| bkuhn | anwayw | 21:12 |
| bkuhn | anyway | 21:12 |
| bkuhn | I am happy to try it via an HTTP tunnel | 21:12 |
| bkuhn | how do we do that? | 21:13 |
| joar | I just messed something up | 21:15 |
| joar | hang on | 21:15 |
| joar | and I use pagekite for that | 21:15 |
| bkuhn | ok, do I need to install anything for that? (I looked at pagekite for a few minutes) | 21:19 |
| bkuhn | (it looks like not) | 21:19 |
| joar | nope | 21:23 |
| joar | http://dev.wandb.org/ | 21:24 |
| joar | bkuhn: ^^ | 21:24 |
| bkuhn | username/password? | 21:24 |
| joar | vagrant, for both | 21:25 |
| bkuhn | Hrm, "Direct Invoice" link doesn't work. | 21:27 |
| joar | it seems like it's very slow | 21:28 |
| joar | CPU load is == 0 | 21:29 |
| joar | memory might be too low | 21:30 |
| bkuhn | ah, working now | 21:30 |
| joar | should I reboot the VM with more memory? | 21:31 |
| joar | oh, I see | 21:35 |
| joar | frontaccounting tries to get the current exchange rate, then it times out | 21:35 |
| bkuhn | ah | 21:36 |
| bkuhn | I'm getting a pagekite error BTW | 21:36 |
| joar | consistently? | 21:36 |
| joar | it works for me | 21:37 |
| bkuhn | happened once or twice, trying again | 21:39 |
| joar | it works for me at least | 21:39 |
| bkuhn | Ok, it's working | 21:42 |
| bkuhn | I'm writing up an eval of it | 21:42 |
| joar | awesome | 21:42 |
| bkuhn | and improving the eval template at the same time . | 21:42 |
| joar | good | 21:42 |
| bkuhn | so, if you can leave this running, you can pay attention to something else. | 21:42 |
| bkuhn | ok, http://dev.wandb.org/admin/users.php? is consistently giving me pagekite error | 21:49 |
| bkuhn | joar: ^ | 21:50 |
| joar | that's really weird | 21:50 |
| bkuhn | clared | 21:52 |
| bkuhn | it's working again | 21:52 |
| bkuhn | maybe reload doesn't really work | 21:52 |
| bkuhn | (I was doing shift-reload) | 21:52 |
| joar | i still get an error on that page | 21:52 |
| joar | I've message the #pagekite team | 21:52 |
| joar | they might be sleeping | 22:01 |
| bkuhn | no problem | 22:09 |
| bkuhn | I was able to figure out what I was using that page to figure out. | 22:09 |
| joar | Trying to read about Kuali, the language they use is really hard to grasp for me as a developer | 22:28 |
| joar | e.g. http://www.kuali.org/rice | 22:28 |
| joar | bkuhn: Kuali had a "goofy license", is that a motive for elimination? | 22:33 |
| bkuhn | I think it probably is..... I 'd meant to look for the licence on the FSF and OSI lists | 22:34 |
| joar | it says "OSI certified" | 22:34 |
| joar | on http://testdrive.kfs.kuali.org/kfs-ptd/acknowledgements.jsp | 22:34 |
| joar | but that might not be true | 22:34 |
| bkuhn | It appears OSI approved http://opensource.org/licenses/ECL-2.0 | 22:35 |
| bkuhn | And FSF approved: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#ECL2.0 | 22:35 |
| joar | there are some "Portions Copyright ..." | 22:35 |
| joar | .. which just state "All rights reserved" | 22:36 |
| bkuhn | Yeah, you mentioned | 22:45 |
| bkuhn | that All Rights Reserved is a goofy notice, but it's clearly licensed fs | 22:45 |
| bkuhn | Free Software | 22:45 |
| bkuhn | So, I think we should spend some time looking at Kuali | 22:46 |
| bkuhn | probably not to day | 22:46 |
| bkuhn | For my part, I'm focused on finishing my eval of Frontaccouting today | 22:46 |
| joar | they don't seem to have any open community | 22:47 |
| joar | Yes, I understand. | 22:47 |
| bkuhn | Yeah, that's a point against them for sure. | 22:47 |
| bkuhn | (I'm also finalizing the point-by-point Eval template) | 22:47 |
| joar | that's good | 22:47 |
| joar | bkuhn: the campaign page mentions that GNOME has pledged to evaluate GNUCash | 22:49 |
| joar | and also, FSF pledged to evaluate SQL-Ledger | 22:49 |
| joar | once your point-by-point template is done, it might be a good idea to remind GNOME, FSF. | 22:49 |
| joar | unless I have misunderstood something. | 22:49 |
| joar | also, I have not received the book you ordered me. | 22:51 |
| joar | iirc it might take up to four weeks for amazon to deliver to sweden. | 22:51 |
| bkuhn | I pinged GNOME and FSF already (two days ago) on that stuff. | 22:53 |
| bkuhn | FSF is in the middle of their biannual giving campaign | 22:53 |
| bkuhn | The main question I have for FSF is how they're doing fund accounting in SQL-Ledger. | 22:54 |
| joar | bkuhn: how's it going? | 23:26 |
| bkuhn | joar: I got distracted by something, sorry. I'll finish it tonight. Frontaccoutning won't be on your list tomorrow morning. :) | 23:26 |
| joar | :) | 23:27 |
| joar | bkuhn: do you still need the instance running? | 23:27 |
| bkuhn | joar: do you mind leaving. | 23:27 |
| bkuhn | ? | 23:27 |
| bkuhn | er leaving it running? | 23:27 |
| joar | ;) | 23:27 |
| bkuhn | if it's not possible to leave it running after you go to bed, I understand. | 23:28 |
| joar | I was planning on booting into windows. | 23:28 |
| bkuhn | eek! | 23:28 |
| bkuhn | :) | 23:28 |
| bkuhn | that sounds horrible. :) | 23:28 |
| bkuhn | ok, go ahead and kill it, I think I've seen what I need. | 23:28 |
| joar | Yes, it is a tradeoff if you want to play AAA PC games. | 23:28 |
| bkuhn | I may ask you to boot it one more time tomorrow to finish up | 23:28 |
| bkuhn | lol | 23:29 |
| bkuhn | joar: as long as you're willing to make it go one more time tomorrow, I think it's ok to let it go now. | 23:29 |
| joar | Ok, I'll shut it down for now. See you tomorrow bkuhn :) | 23:29 |
| bkuhn | later! | 23:29 |
| bkuhn | Enjoy your proprietary software games :) | 23:29 |
| joar | and thanks for today | 23:29 |
| joar | I feel dirty now. | 23:29 |
| joar | :) | 23:30 |
| joar | (re proprietary games) | 23:30 |
| bkuhn | joar: actually lemme try one more thing | 23:30 |
| joar | oops | 23:30 |
| bkuhn | no it's ok. | 23:30 |
| joar | bringing it back up | 23:31 |
| joar | I will bring it back up for another 15 minutes | 23:31 |
| bkuhn | don't need that lon I'll be quick | 23:31 |
| joar | I have to do some things anyway | 23:31 |
| joar | it's up again | 23:31 |
| bkuhn | joar: ok I'm done, thanks | 23:33 |
| joar | you're welcome, have a good night! | 23:41 |
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